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Q 8399: Been reading
your responses to others and learning some of the main points in installing
this stone in our new kitchen on the floor and backsplash. In talking with
our contractor the question came up as to the need to either glue the durarock
to the 3/4 subfloor and screw it vs. use a felt moisture barrier and screw
the heck out of it without glueing it. In the first instance we would use
a moisture barrier on the grown (6 ml.plastic).
As for the backsplash, there will be sheetrock behind, so should we use
the thinseth (white) plus some epoxy, sillicone or (?) on the joints as
we but it as close as possible? or is there a different process for the
walls than it is for the floor.?
I would like to know a bit more about the Travertine we bought... It is
18x18 tiles with straight edges a Beige Medium Natural Travertine from Turkey
which we bought at the Home Depot at a price we could afford.) I like the
look of it and wonder if I should try to see on a test tile what the use
of a color enhanser would do to it...also, as I researched with local companies,
they mentioned there were two types of impregnators, one which preserves
the color in the stone and the other one which darkenes it...would one use
the color enhancer first and then the impregnator or are these both one
and the same... Thank you for your expert advise....Bea, in Georgia. Reply
Q 8398: We are considering Sucuri Brown (not the veined Juparna Sucuri) for our countertops in our kitchen. I have never even heard of this color before today. I'm wondering how hard of a granite it is and if it will repel stains. Also, I am looking for pictures from someone who had it installed in their kitchen. Please help. Kami, Reply
R1: Dear Kami: I have never even heard of this color before today. Neither did I! :-)Q 8397: I thought of using slate on my entry way and to hold a fireplace but what eles can I use? Reply
R1: Dear Tonya: You could use slate for your fireplace (not on the hearth, though), but you dont want it on your floor!If you like the look of slate, get some look-alike porcelain tiles instead. Theyre just about bullet-proof! Maurizio, Expert PanelistQ 8396: Our lovely brand-new countertops made of Wild West Green are staining at an alarming rate...but only near the food-prep/eating areas. I have tried (and failed) to stain the original (unsealed) sample I was given. I know that it is the same stone because I saw them remove it from my slab. Are my stains in the sealer and not the in the stone itself? How shall I address this problem? I have not seen any discussion of Wild West on your website, Reply
R1: Dear Collen: We never discussed Wild West Green because nobody ever inquired about it so far. :-)Q 8395: Hi thank you for all your info on the website. Do you know anything about a granite called VanGogh? I am in the Midwest and fabricators here said it must go by another name they have never heard of it. I saw it elsewhere on the Internet, but here is a link to the slab I fell in love with! Thanks for any assistance. Annie, Reply
R1: Dear Annie: Do yourself a favor: log on Google and make a quick search on Grigio Sardo granite or Rosa Porrino granite. These two stones [b]are[/b] granite. Now tell me if your Van Gogh thing has any resemblance whatsoever with granite. (Please, dont ask me what it is because I have no idea, other than being positive about the fact that it aint no granite by a huge shot!)Youd better run some serious test before you decide on that stone!
I hope you will understand the true meaning of what Im about to say. It appears to me that like most other inquirers at this stage you seem mostly interested in the type of granite and/or its physical characteristics. Its human nature at work, I reckon!:-) How about if I tell you that a certain stone is a good choice and then you get a low-grade slab? Trust me: the human factor is far more important than the stone itself and should be the only true deciding factor!
In an industry thats
virtually unregulated, how good and reputable the fabricator whos
is going to process the stone youll end up choosing is far more
important than the stone itself. None of the horror stories that get posted
in this very site stem from the stone itself: they all stem from the fabricator.
That is why I seldom make final statements about any one particular stone.
There may be differences within the same stone (and Im not talking
about looks, here!) from one bundle of slabs and the next. The slabs may
have also been either doctored (which is bad), or resined
(which could be good, but only to a certain extent) by the factory, which
would make a big difference. Even more important, whats a good stone
in the hands of some Michelangelo?! And again: a reputable
fabricator will only carry high-grade slabs, not some special!
Maurizio, Expert Panelist
R1:
Dear Kathy: Being that Im 25% colorblind and all, I will stay out
of the decorating business.
As for the rest, talking as a mechanic, let me give you a list of the granites
that I like: A good fabricator! End of the list!
I hope you will understand the true meaning of what Im about to say.
It appears to me that like most other inquirers at this stage you seem mostly
interested in the type of granite and/or its physical characteristics.
Its human nature at work, I reckon!:-) How about if I tell you that
a certain stone is a good choice and then you get a low-grade slab? Trust
me: the human factor is far more important than the stone itself and should
be the only true deciding factor!
In an industry thats virtually unregulated, how good and reputable
the fabricator whos is going to process the stone youll end
up choosing is far more important than the stone itself. None of the horror
stories that get posted in this very site stem from the stone itself: they
all stem from the fabricator. That is why I seldom make final statements
about any one particular stone. There may be differences within the same
stone (and Im not talking about looks, here!) from one bundle of slabs
and the next. The slabs may have also been either doctored (which
is bad), or resined (which could be good, but only to a certain
extent) by the factory, which would make a big difference. Even more important,
whats a good stone in the hands of some Michelangelo?!
And again: a reputable fabricator will only carry high-grade slabs, not
some special!, Maurizio, Expert Panelist
R1: Dear Marylyn: If you run a quick search on Google you will find out that theres more than one Golden Oak. They are all stones of dubious geological classification. None of them is granite and they are most likely orthogneiss. These kinds of stones are the perfect candidates for some heavy resining by the factory to try to minimize their major drawbacks, which are high absorbency and extensive grittiness, not to mention the upgrading of low-grade slabs. The resining always enhances the color of the surface of the slab, but certain resins make it real darker. When a fabricator polishes the edges which are not resined, of course no matter how well the polishing is done, the color will always be lighter compared to surface of the stone. A color enhancer will only work when the difference is not much. Apparently it is not your case.
Its a good thing that youre in the hands of a reputable fabricator! There is not much else that I can tell you from here. Now remember, its never too early to think about the proper maintenance of your stone. The issue of what youll be doing day in and day out to your stone is far more important than the sealing itself and its all too often neglected. Maurizio, Expert Panelist
Q 8392: I have (well I hope I have!) a blue granite sink and drainer, the drainer is AOK the sink however is all stained and I do not know how to clean it! HELP please Regards, Hazel, ReplyR1: Dear Hazel: From your description I cant figure out what the real problem is, but I assure that your stains are not stains and can not be cleaned. Only a reputable stone restoration contractor could take care of that, providing that your sink is natural stone at all. In fact, what I can also promise you is that what you have is granite just as much as I am from another planet! :-( Maurizio, Expert Panelist
Q 8391: We're building a new home and have selected New Venetian Gold granite for the kitchen counter tops. A question came up about how the hole for the sink should be cut. Both sides of the sink (Kohler cast iron) and the back are flush with the sides of the granite, but the front edge of the sink is about 3/4 inch in from the edge of the granite (looks like the hole was cut too large from front to back. Should all edges be flush with the stone, or is it preferable to have the sink "inset" from the edge of the stone? Thanks, Irv, ReplyR1: Dear Irv: It sounds to me like they cut the hole a bit too large, but what can I tell you, theres not much that can be done at this point, is there? There are no specific industry standards on how the sink should fit the hole, as you can understand; so, I reckon that all is left is to try to work things out with your fabricator. Maurizio, Expert Panelist
Q 8390: I'd like to know your suggestion for the best granite to use for kitchen and bath counters. I've recently found your Q & A list online and noticed you've extended your regrets to many people when they mentioned what type of granite they have. I'd like your advise before I select one. If the question is entirely too broad, what information do you need to narrow it down?R1:
Dear Stormy: Comparing granite to soapstone would be like comparing an orange
with an apple. They are both easy to maintain but are totally different
from one another. As for the resale value of the house, personally I believe
that granite is more sellable than soapstone, but it's just me.
Now, let's talk about the selection of the "right" granite. The
list of my favorite granites is the following: a good fabricator! End of
the list. I hope you will understand the true meaning of what I'm about
to say. It appears to me that like most other inquirers at this stage you
seem mostly interested in the type of "granite" and/or its physical
characteristics. It's human nature at work, I reckon!:-) How about if I
tell you that a certain stone is a good choice and then you get a
low-grade slab? Trust me: the human factor is far more important than the
stone itself and should be the only true deciding factor! In an industry
that's virtually unregulated, how good and reputable the fabricator who's
is going to process the stone you'll end up choosing is far more important
than the stone itself. None of the horror stories that get posted in this
very site stem from the stone itself: they all stem from the fabricator.
That is why I seldom make final statements about any one particular stone.
There may be differences within the same stone (and I'm not talking about
looks, here!) from one bundle of slabs
and the next. The slabs may have also been either "doctored" (which
is bad), or "resined" (which could be good, but only to a certain
extent) by the factory, which would make a big difference. Even more important,
what's a good stone in the hands of some "Michelangelo"?! And
again: a reputable fabricator will only carry high-grade slabs, not some
"special!" Maurizio, Expert Panelist
R1:
Dear Donna: Why, thank you for your nice words!
As for comparing Formica with granite
well
I mean, what are
you looking for your countertop? Price or beauty?
If you cant afford the cost of granite, then plastic laminate is your
man, but if you can afford natural stone, then the choice falls between
marble and granite. Marble is quite a peculiar material. Better said, it
requires peculiar customers. (See other threads on this specific
subject on this very forum.)
At this point, if we narrow the choice down to granite, the list of my favorite
granites is the following: a good fabricator! End of the list.
I hope you will understand the true meaning of what Im about to say.
It appears to me that like most other inquirers at this stage you seem mostly
interested in the type of granite and/or its physical characteristics.
Its human nature at work, I reckon!:-) How about if I tell you that
a certain stone is a good choice and then you get a low-grade slab? Trust
me: the human factor is far more important than the stone itself and should
be the only true deciding factor!
In an industry thats virtually unregulated, how good and reputable
the fabricator whos is going to process the stone youll end
up choosing is far more important than the stone itself. None of the horror
stories that get posted in this very site stem from the stone itself: they
all stem from the fabricator. That is why I seldom make final statements
about any one particular stone. There may be differences within the same
stone (and Im not talking about looks, here!) from one bundle of slabs
and the next. The slabs may have also been either doctored (which
is bad), or resined (which could be good, but only to a certain
extent) by the factory, which would make a big difference. Even more important,
whats a good stone in the hands of some Michelangelo?!
And again: a reputable fabricator will only carry high-grade slabs, not
some special! Maurizio, Expert Panelist
We have honed black slate (from Pennsylvania) countertops - but we DID NOT seal them and now they have some marks (mostly water stains, maybe some oil) and some scratches. I feel like I use mineral oil all the time!!! It looks lovely but does not last. As soon as I wipe down the countertops the oil goes away and they scratches and stains reappear. I want to: Remove the stains and hopefully the scratches and then SEAL them so that I can prevent new scratches.
PLEASE HELP - how can I remove the stains
and scratches, should I sand?
Should I use a polish? I would prefer home remedies that are nontoxic
if possible! Thank you so much! Lilo, Reply
I want to: Remove the stains and hopefully the scratches and then SEAL them so that I can prevent new scratches.
What you want is what everybody and his mother wants, too. Too bad it just doesnt exist, because if it did I wouldnt be bashing at slate! :)
You cant remove the stains for the simple reasons that theyre not stains, but acid etches, which means that they are surface damages, just as the scratches. There is nothing available in the entire galaxy that can prevent those stains. You cant remove the scratches, either, because you dont have the equipment, you dont have the material and, above all, you dont have the know-how and, consequently you would never be able to reproduce the factory finish. You would need a professional to do that. But whats the point? After the restoration contractor left it will take only a couple of days before you have new scratches. That is what slate is all about! :-(
Your only option is to make friends with a good-quality stone color enhancer (such as my amazing MB-6), which will give you on a permanent basis the look that you get when you treat your countertop with mineral oil. Of course, every time you etch or scratch your slate you will have to keep applying the product. You will also use specialty cleaning products (such as MB-5 or MB-17) to care for your stone and the color enhancer.
There, dont tell
me that I told you to throw away your countertop! :-)
Maurizio, Expert Panelist
R1: Dear Toby: Two virgin olive oil (or should it be extra virgin? :?) fans in two days! Mmm Im wondering if its the beginning of a trend?... I wouldnt be at all surprised though: come up with something idiotic in the stone industry and youre going to find a flock of followers!! :-)
FYI, olive oil may take longer than other vegetable oils but WILL rancid.
If you read the previous thread that I mentioned and thats linked above, I wont need to make any further comment, other than enhancing the fact that end-users of natural stone products need marblecleaning.net and what it stands more than ever!!
Yeah, youre right,
its tool late to fire the butt of your Michelangelo,
but do NOT let him do the olive oil treatment!
Maurizio, Expert Panelist
R1:
Dear Mary: Same stone, two names! :-)
It usually doesnt need to be sealed, but usually doesnt mean
all the time, does it?! Youre gonna have to find out by yourself to
make sure. Spill some water in a couple of spots of your countertop, let
it dwell for 10 minutes or so, wipe it dry and observe if the areas under
which the water has been sitting have become (temporarily) any darker than
the rest. If so, then you will apply a good-quality impregnating sealer.
If not, dont bother.
Now remember, its never too early to think about the proper maintenance of your stone. The issue of what youll be doing day in and day out to your stone is far more important than the sealing itself and its all too often neglected. Maurizio, Expert Panelist
Q 8385: HI, we are about to lay puglia stone (lapidea) absorbant light colored tile to concrete skreed. I have some doubts about the contractors expertise. First his tilers were going to place a 5 mm space between the tiles which are a 4 module pattern. The tiles are sized in a way that they fit together ONLY without any spacer. This stone is a type of marble. Is it necessary for marble tiles to have grout? We also changed the adhesive from gray to white due to the risk of absorption and spotting through the tile. Anything else I should be aware of here. We found a new tiler who is going to do the job, but I don't want to risk anything unneccessary. thanks, ReplyR1:
Dear Kathi: I am from the Northern part of Italy, but when I was back in
my country I spent most of my professional life in the Puglia region. I
thought I knew all the marbles quarried in that region, yet I never heard
of that particular stone! Maybe the opened the quarry after I moved to the
USA back in 1981. At any rate, if its a marble you need to have grout,
end of the debate. 2 mm. is your man. Of course, if the floor
is going to be installed with the grind-in-place method (like
it should, especially considering that you are posting this query from Italy),
then it would be a different story.
Maurizio, Expert Panelist
R1:
Dear Fred: When it comes to stain removal, either you buy one of those expensive
Professional kits (that no true professional ever uses!) at
a stone retailer near you, or you can spend less money and get my comprehensive
guidelines on how to remove stains by using inexpensive and far more effective
means that you may already have in your household! Such impressive piece
of literature will also tell you how to tell stains apart from stains,
and what to do about the latter!
Maurizio, Expert Panelist
Q 8383: We had our Uba Tuba counter tops installed in our kitchen 6 days ago. The installer said to wait 5-7 days and then seal them with 511 impregnator sealer. After searching your website for the answer to our question about whether to seal this kind of granite or not, I am getting the impression that maybe this is not the best thing to do. We don't want to wait any longer to seal the counter tops if that is the proper way to care for this type of granite but we also don't want to make the mistake of sealing something that we should not. Could you please tell us what we should be doing to take the best care of our Uba Tuba including sealing and cleaning? Thank you for your help. Sincerely, Joyce Apr, Reply
R1:
Dear Joice: There are a few quarries of Ubatuba and the stone they produce
is not the same, although with most characteristics in common. Most Ubatuba
do not need to be sealed, but a few just might.
How to find out? Quite simple: spill some water in a couple of spots of
your stones, let it dwell for 10 minutes or so, wipe it dry and observe
if the areas under which the water has been sitting have become (temporarily)
any darker than the rest. If so, then you will apply a good-quality impregnating
sealer. If not, dont bother. Simple
enough for ya?!
Now remember, its never too early to think about the proper maintenance of your stone. The issue of what youll be doing day in and day out to your stone is far more important than the sealing itself and its all too often neglected. Maurizio, Expert Panelist
Q 8382: We just had granite installed in our home. I stumbled across your web site. I want to know purous our selections are. Creme chianti, Silver Sea Green and Monte Carlo, Reply
R1: Dear Joanne & Austin: (ladies first! :)) Your fabricator must be a master at playing the name game. I never heard of Crème Chianti or Monte Carlo granites. Silver Sea Green may or may not need to be sealed.Q 8381: I have
a one year old granite kitchen that has oil stains from frying splatter.
I have read your fix for this, a poltice of paper towels and Acetone which
I will try. The sales people where I bought the installation told us to
use a poltice then seal the stone with a good grade of virgin olive oil.
Have you an opinion on this sealing? It appears I have a sealed granite
or very dense stone. I put the drop
of water on the surface and let set for hours before drying. On my contract
I have these words or letters discribing the stone
CTVMACSHIVAKASH, SMIVAKASHI 3CM, 125.00x80x1.25, The color Rusty red streaks
and dots with grey/blue dots in a light cream. The rusty red colors being
prodominate Could you tell me anything about the stone from this? What would
you recommend for sealing if anything after removing the oil stains. Thank
You...... Really enjoyed your site. Ron Adamson Sebastian Fl, Reply
Q 8380: The marble trim around my shower door has absorbed iron stains from using well water. What can I use to clean this marble? My husband said I can use Iron Out. Is this true? Thank you Virginia, Reply
R1: Dear Virginia: Iron Out in a poultice could only work is the rust stain was actually produced by well-water rich in iron mineral. If your marble is White Carrara or White Thassos (which contain a percentage of iron mineral) the rust could be the consequence of migration of moisture through the core of the stone if you have grout or caulk missing near or around the marble saddle. In such case, nothing could remove that stain, because the stone itself would be rusted through and through. Maurizio, Expert PanelistQ 8379: I was to
have my granite installed on a 6' by 3' area or the standard
cabinet width, with a cut out for a drop in sink 25 x 22 all was well until
the installers came in with four pieces instead of one. I was told one piece
would work great for this area and I was looking forward to that. The installer
told me that the piece broke, and that they could make it look fine with
a seam. I really did not want a seam. The installer said that they do one
pieces all of the time without problems around the sink, but the owner of
the granite place is trying to convience me that every piece will break,
and that 4 pieces is standard, what are your thoughts, It was veneziano
or the like. Thanks, Reply
I would really like to help you, but I just dont get the picture. Could you please clarify for me? Maurizio, Expert Panelist
Q 8378: I'm so glad I found your web site tonight! We were planning to install a quality Italian porcelain tile floor in our kitchen but then I saw a home with a gorgeous ferrous slate kitchen floor. The stone company said ferrous slate is very durable and will last forever. They let me bring home a couple of slate tiles & the bottom edge of one chipped. The slate is beautiful but after seeing this chip & after reading your comments at this website, I'm scared of the slate. Is porcelain (with a "V" PEI rating) a much better choice for this high traffic area? We don't want to replace this flooring again in 10 years. Thank you, Debbie, ReplyR1:
Dear Debbie: This a natural stone place and we are all natural stone people,
but mark my words: you do NOT want any slate, ferrous or otherwise on your
kitchen floor or any other floor for that matter!
If you like the look of slate, consider slate look-alike porcelain tiles
instead. Only a trained eye can tell the difference and they are as bullet-proof
as they come! Maurizio, Expert Panelist
R1: Dear Inquirer: You may be able to find some cultured marble (whatever that means! Its manmade plastic material) that may resemble White Carrara marble, but its much more delicate and just about impossible to repair.
Within the natural stone realm, theres nothing that come even close to the look of White Carrara, or any other marble, for that matter. Besides, even a different marble would have the same maintenance issues of White Carrara.
Talking about which, my mother back in Italy has a White Carrara table top since 1949 and she still uses it every day. Tonys Pizza around the corner from my house has a White Carrara top where they roll their dough every single day for only the gods know how many years! So, about not being a durable material I beg to differ with whoever told you otherwise! Lets just say that, it may present maintenance issues if one expects from it more that it can deliver.
About the use of marble in a kitchen I consider it a culture issue.
All throughout the Mediterranean basin marble is a very popular stone as a kitchen countertop and everybody enjoys it. (Limestone is not so popular, but certain types of limestone could be acceptable in relation of what follows.) In Northern Europe and all throughout North America, many like the way it looks, but nobody enjoys it!
Hows that?
For the simple reason that In Southern Europe they never install a polished marble countertop (or a polished marble floor, for that matter). They start from a hone-finished surface and then they start using and abusing it. The worse it gets, the better they like it! Its considered aging. Its like a pair of old blue jeans, if you know what I mean: a highly sought lived-in look.
While the looks of an old
pair of jeans is very much appreciated in Northern Europe or in North
America, too, the same principle does not seem to apply to stone. Most
people over here expect their stone to look like brand-new all the time,
and any change is not considered aging, but a
damage that needs to be rectified. Hence the problem. The question now
is: regardless of your geographical location, which one of the two groups
do you belong to? :-)
Maurizio, Expert Panelist
R1: Dear Lory: Regardless of the fact that youre not using proper cleaning agents for your stone, the mysterious ghost rings that you have are not stains by a long shot; therefore you will never be able to get rid of them by poulticing. It would be like trying to poultice a scratch out! I know exactly what your problem is and I have the final solution for you. I also know that your fabricator is the sole cause of your problem. Considering the kind of money they made out of you, I think its only fair that you give them a chance to rectify the situation. Maurizio, Expert Panelist
Q 8375: Please advise what is the best tile or stone that I could use for a kitchen floor. I am looking for a stone look, with very low maintenance. Is ceramic still my best choice?? I also do not want to spend a fortune on a floor that will be tracked on with kids, teens and their friends all about. I love beautiful yet practical, please advise. By the way I have maple cabinets in toasted almond color and with a waterfall green coto granite countertop. Very nice contrast, anyway pls advise. Loida, ReplyR1: Dear Loida: Im a stone man and my heart bleeds while telling you that your best bet is to consider stone look-alike porcelain tiles. I cant think of any natural stone this side of flamed granite that could withstand the kind of traffic youre describing to us. Maurizio, Expert Panelist
Q 8374: Hi I have a problem that i hope you can help me with.I had a marble front put on my fireplace.The person that did it took off to mexico so i am left with this problem. The marble is black with white veins.The recess part of the fireplace is nice and shiny like most marbles ,the out side of the fireplace which is about 10 slabs of the marble are very smooth and very clean but has no shine to it .He did the sanding with the different grades of sandpaper to smooth the edges that he wanted to round off and went over the slabs that are now not shiny .I tried using high gloss lacquer on it but when i sprayed it on it just disappered. Do you know how i can get all the marble to shine .It does not look to good this way . I guess i was to trustworthy with my mexican worker. thank you for any help you can give me . Claire, ReplyR1:
Dear Claire: High gloss lacquer, huh!... :-)
Your only option is to hire a bona fide stone restoration contractor who
will lightly grind (hone) and polish your stone.
Now, youd better watch out! I consider stone refinishing as the very
pinnacle of all the activities related to stone from a professional point
of view. Unfortunately, there are a lot of quacks on the loose out there!
How could you tell a champ from a chomp? Could you trust the recommendation
of your local stone distributor, or contractor, or your interior decorator?
Hardly! Maurizio, Expert Panelist
Some have said that we should have used an isolation barrier, but can't explain why that helps. I will add that this floor traverses over the new addition and the older part of the home (15 years old). The original structure has obviously completed any shrinking or adjusting. Any thoughts and suggestions that you have would be very welcome. We have ordered new stone and the installer is planning to cut out and remove the cracked pieces (about 80 of them!). I am fearful that they will just crack again. Can you explain this phenomenon? Do you have any suggestions for me? 2) BTW, I would never use travertine in the kitchen again. We have had problems with it chipping with pieces popping out leaving small and medium sized craters and with spills that have etched the floor -- lemon juice and my dog's vomit for two examples. The etching is visually noticeable in certain lighting conditions and by touch. These pieces will be replaced, but for future spills, what do your recommend as the appropriate restoration method?
3) Also, our counter tops are Impala Black (actually Impala Blue, just like Impala Black, but with a few iridescent blue flakes here and there). We love the look and all is going well with it. Hopefully this decision was right. What can you tell me about this stone? It was sealed by the installers, but is due for a second application. Do you recommend sealing it? What product, if so? Thanks for your services... what a great resource! Jim, Reply
R1:
Dear Jim: I will answer your last question for free: It was sealed
by the installers, but is due for a second application. Do you recommend
sealing it? No, I do NOT! Consider yourself lucky that you didnt have
any problem because of the sealer that your fabricator applied to your countertop!
Maurizio, Expert Panelist
R1:
Dear Cindy: There are two options to solve your problem: You have those
two tiles replaced. You have a professional stone refinisher in your area
come and hone those two tiles. Better yet, have them hone the whole floor
for you by using honing powder. You will not believe your own eyes when
the job will be finished! IMO honed factory finish is not fit for sale.
Now remember, its never too early to think about the proper maintenance
of your stone. The issue of what youll be doing day in and day out
to your stone is far more important than the sealing itself and its
all too often neglected. As you can tell by reading many of this sites
postings, youre not likely to get good information about it from your
dealer or installer. Maurizio, Expert Panelist
R1:
Dear Karen: Of course there is! There are actually two ways to go about
it: If you want to do it yourself you can join my next three-day class on
stone refinishing that will be held in Folcroft, PA July 20-27. Besides
the cost of the class itself ($800.00) you will have to consider traveling,
food and lodging. You will also to factor in approximately $5,000 for equipment
and materials that you will need to do the job. You can hire a professional
stone refinisher in your area that will do the job for you. Should choose
the second option, youd better watch out! I consider stone refinishing
as the very pinnacle of all the activities related to stone from a professional
point of view. Unfortunately, there are a lot of quacks on the loose out
there!
How could you tell a champ from a chomp? Could you trust the recommendation
of your local stone distributor, or contractor, or your interior decorator?
Hardly! Maurizio, Expert Panelist
R1: Dear Martha: The answer to the first question is, no. Which lead to the automatic answer to the second question, that is, yes, you do! Now remember, its never too early to think about the proper maintenance of your stone. Maurizio, Expert Panelist
Q 8369: I am a fabricator in the greater Pittsburgh area. I have been reading your reply for three years now. Fabulous stuff! My father started the business in 1975, he came here from Pedichiano,AQ,Italy. I am 35, have a B.S. in electrical engineering and worked as a software engineer. So I like to do alot of research.. I spent 9 months researching which new saw to buy to update my fathers 1950 stonesaw(you know with the rails), finally I bought a park ind sierra and I love it.R1: Dear Reno: The seaming is one of those areas in the fabrication process where you separate the men from the boys. However, the technique you described to repair a crack which is very good indeed would not work well with granite seams. If nothing else it would involve grinding and re-polishing the surface of the slab at the seams to match the factory finish all the time; thats a chancy proposition right there!! Go with epoxy. There are a few techniques to make the seams barely visible. Maurizio, Expert Panelist
Q 8368: I am trying to determine for a client if polished or honed surface would be the best surface for their lifestyle. The pros and cons of one verses the other? Thank you for your response. ReplyR1: Dear Charles: Besides black, most granites are very good in both versions, providing that when honed theyre treated with a good-quality stone color enhancer (like my outlandish MB-6) instead of an impregnating sealer. To summarize the difference about routine cleaning, its like comparing a polished stainless steel surface with a satin-finish one. Maurizio, Expert Panelist
Q 8367: I have purchased Verde Peacock for my kitchen countertops and if IR1:
Dear Becky: Verde Peacock does not need to be sealed. About the Verde Fuoco
Im not very familiar with it. Spill some water in a couple of spots
of your countertop, let it dwell for 10 minutes or so, wipe it dry and observe
if the areas under which the water has been sitting have become (temporarily)
any darker than the rest. If so, then you will apply a good-quality impregnating
sealer. If not, dont bother.
For both materials the routine maintenance will involve the use of MB=5
(or MB-17) teamed up with MB-13.
About your cross-cut travertine floors, I would apply a good-quality impregnating
sealer like my outlandish MB-4 only in the kitchen. Use MB-1 for routine
maintenance. Maurizio, Expert Panelist
R1:
Dear Becky: Let me get this straight: You seem to be unable to get your
engineered stone countertop clean with a glass cleaner and, consequently
you went to the experts at the Big Box store and when you asked them what
to use to clean your countertop they told you that engineered stone shouldnt
be sealed
Is that right?
If so, what on earth does a sealer for stone got to do with cleaning? And,
second, what on earth a sealer for stone got to do the polish of the surface?
Your best bet is go back to the fabricator who installed your countertop
and find out with them what your problem could be. Maurizio, Expert Panelist
R1:
Dear Wilford: Of course I did. And Im very jealous of it, too!
My chemist tried to find out how they did it, but it just gave up! It comes
liquid inside a bottle, but if you perform the proper (secret) rites before
and after the application, it will turn into hard diamond again, and everybody
lived happily ever after!! And, of course, you do need it!! Ive heard
of a few people being turned into zombies without it. In the best case scenario
you will get terrible nightmares and your family tree will get coursed for
three generations down the line!! :-)
What is a good sealer for White Romano? You mean this side of
the liquid diamond?... Well, my MB-4 is a pretty darn good performer, but
it literally pales in comparison with that magic stuff. It must be the rites
thing!! :-)
The rule of using the same sealer over again was very important during the
era of the solvent-carried impregnating sealers. Now that most sealers are
water-carried the problem of possible non-compatibility between two different
formulations is not a factor any longer, but still, it could happen that
the second sealer wont perform at its best because of the presence
of the first one.
Regardless of the sealer, the issue of what youll be doing day in
and day out to your stone is far more important than the sealing itself
and its all too often neglected. Maurizio, Expert Panelist
R1: Dear Liz: Not that I know of. That is one of the major problems with slate. Due its natural cleft finish, scratches and etchings cant be repaired, because the only way to do that is by slightly grinding the surface of the stone, which would imply a perfectly flat surface. The only way to make the scratches disappear is with the application of a good-quality stone color enhancer. That could change the depth of color of the whole tile, however. To find out what I mean, try to rub some baby oil over the scratch. What youll see (which will last no more than a few hours, a day top) is what you will be getting by applying a good-quality stone color enhancer like my mythic MB-6! Maurizio, Expert Panelist
Q 8363: I have an oily stain on my new countertops and need to remove it using the poultice method you have described. Are there any granites that can be harmed by the acetone, or are all of them same to have it used on. The type of granite I have is St. Cecilia and it is very light, and I suspect it is poorly sealed. After I remove the stain (if I can) I will seal it. Thanks in advance. Ann, ReplyR1: Dear Ann: Not only are there no granite that could be harmed by acetone, but theres not a single stone that could be harmed by it, or any other mineral solvent for that matter. Your suspicion about the possibility that your stone was not sealed properly sounds pretty reasonable to me. Maurizio, Expert Panelist
Q 8362: I was wondering if you know a way to remove stains on brick from un-polished granite run-off. I have porus white brick, with granite steps and the there are dark discolorations from the water run-off. I've tried bleach, simple green and hydrochloric acid with no positive results. It looks like scale is forming. thanks, Vincent, ReplyR1: Dear Vincent: Im no brick expert, but I know enough about granite to promise you that no matter which granite or granite it is it will never stain anything!! I really dont know what your problem might be without seeing your situation, but it sounds to me like you have a migration of moisture problem, with consequent efflorescence. Your best bet is to get hold of a reputable contractor and consult with them on location about finding a solution to your problem. Ciao and good luck, Maurizio, Expert Panelist
Q 8361: I just recently layed tile in a 1200sq ft area i was wondering how do i charge for the labor i have done? ReplyR1: Dear Eva: Let me try to understand this: Youre not a professional tile installation contractor (or else you wouldnt be asking such a weird question), yet you installed 1200 sq ft of tiles, right? But you started the job without any agreement with the customer on what you would charge them, right? And now youre asking advice on how much you should charge for the work that youve already performed, right?! Well, under the circumstances I have only one answer for you: charge as much as possible!!! I mean, gimme a break, will ya?!! :-) :-) :-) Ciao and good luck, Maurizio, Expert Panelist
Q 8360: We recently purchased grey carrera marble for our bathroom floor. I'm trying to recreate the bungalow era in our 1928 home. do you suggest we seal the marble after installation? thank you for your help. Karen, ReplyR1:
Dear Karen: If you really think that in the bungalow era they were sealing
their marble floors, go ahead and seal it! :-)
Joking aside, polished marble does not need to be sealed. Besides, are you
gonna spill coffee and cooking oil (and let them sit on the floor for a
couple of hours) on your bathroom floor?! :?
Concern yourself with more important issues. The issue of what youll
be doing day in and day out to your stone is far more important than the
sealing itself and its all too often neglected. Maurizio, Expert
R1:
Dear Gina: Another inquirer from the Land Down Under!
Saying limestone youre saying absolutely nothing. There are certain
limestones (very few indeed) that could be almost suitable in a kitchen
(it all depends how you feel about the changes it will go through
over time), while certain other will literally melt under the action of
running warm water. Anywhere in between there are hundreds different limestones
that nobody know anything about All in all it is indeed a chancy proposition
with the odds certainly not in your favor.
Now lets come to the Engineered Stone (Ceasarstone and such).
Why that??
If you want something real tough, why do you have to go for a manmade material
and give up the unmatchable beauty of natural stone, when you have hundreds
of mercantile granites available?
Get yourself a good fabricator and go with granite! If you dont like it shiny, you can always have it hone-finished (light colors are not a problem like black). But
I hope you will understand the true meaning of what Im about to say. It appears to me that like most other inquirers at this stage you seem mostly interested in the type of granite and/or its physical characteristics. Its human nature at work, I reckon!:-) How about if I tell you that a certain stone is a good choice and then you get a low-grade slab? Trust me: the human factor is far more important than the stone itself and should be the only true deciding factor!
In an industry thats virtually unregulated, how good and reputable the fabricator whos is going to process the stone youll end up choosing is far more important than the stone itself. None of the horror stories that get posted in this very site stem from the stone itself: they all stem from the fabricator. That is why I seldom make final statements about any one particular stone. There may be differences within the same stone (and Im not talking about looks, here!) from one bundle of slabs and the next. The slabs may have also been either doctored (which is bad), or resined (which could be good, but only to a certain extent) by the factory, which would make a big difference. Even more important, whats a good stone in the hands of some Michelangelo?! And again: a reputable fabricator will only carry high-grade slabs, not some special! Maurizio, Expert Panelist
Q 8358: We had polished ubba tuba installed in our kitchen about 4 years ago. Last week I notice a small chip in once of the edges (maybe about 1/4 to 1/2 inch). I believe it's a double pencil with a 1/4" radius. Can anything be done to repair and/or camoflague. I would sincerely appreciate any advice. Thanks! Deidre, ReplyR1:
Dear Deidre: Of course something can be done. Not by you, however! :-(
No filler will ever stick to such a shallow chip; therefore the best way
to go is to have that area of the edge re-shaped with a proper routing tool.
Your best bet is to have the original fabricator do the repair, for they
have the exact bit they used to originally shape the edge, but as a second
option, a good stone restoration contractor should be able to pull it off
to a satisfactory result. Maurizio, Expert Panelist
R1: Dear Lynn: Unfortunately, this is not, by and far a DIY project. Regardless of the filler, once its applied it will have to be ground flush with the rest of the floor and brought up to the same finish. Your best bet is to consult with a bona fide stone restoration contractor. Now, youd better watch out! I consider stone refinishing as the very pinnacle of all the activities related to stone from a professional point of view. Unfortunately, there are a lot of quacks on the loose out there! How could you tell a champ from a chomp? Could you trust the recommendation of your local stone distributor, or contractor, or your interior decorator? Hardly! Maurizio, Expert Panelist
Q 8356: My son left some corn chips on our gray stone hearth. Needless to say the chips left grease marks. I'm not sure of the type of stone or even if it's natural or man-made. Any suggestions for getting rid of the grease stains? I'm afraid of making things worse. Thanks! ReplyR1: Dear Bart: When it comes to stain removal, either you buy one of those expensive Professional kits (that no true professional ever uses!) at a stone retailer near you, or you can spend less money and get my comprehensive guidelines on how to remove stains by using inexpensive and far more effective means that you may already have in your household! Such impressive piece of literature will also tell you how to tell stains apart from stains, and what to do about the latter! Maurizio, Expert Panelist
Q 8355: I have just been reading a forum with your comments in it about slate flooring and wonder if you can tell me if there is ANYTHING that can be done to make cheap brown/grey slate flooring look better, or is the only way to fork out lots of money and get it covered, or refer me to a site with the info I need. I hope there is a cheaper alternative as its a huge area and I dont want to take out a 2nd mortgate. Thanks Lesley Fry, Brisbane, Australia, ReplyR1: Dear Lesley: Quite a few inquiries from the land Down Under, lately! :-) I have a couple of simple questions for you: Do you currently have a hard-shell polyurethane-like sealer onto the slate? If the answer is yes, then the only way to remove the stuff from such a large floor is by a lightly sandblasting it. After that, you will put your floor on a diet of stone color enhancer and neutral floor detergent, NOT a stone soap). Do you have any wax or other strippable topical finish on your floor? If so, then you will have to have it stripped by a professional janitor and then, once again, put your floor on a diet of stone color enhancer and neutral floor detergent (NOT a stone soap). If you dont have any coating at all, does your floor look much better when its wet than when its dry? If so, starting right away with a diet of stone color enhancer and neutral floor detergent (NOT a stone soap) will help a lot. Maurizio, Expert Panelist
Q 8354: I have a very small countertop (112" by 20" with a sink that takes up 33" x 19") that I am going to tile. The cost of having such a small slab installed is quite prohibitive. I debated about ceramic, etc., but love the look of stone and have decided on the Labrador Verde/UbaR1: Dear Lee: Is this type of stone a granite? Not by a long shot. Its Charnockite. Does it need to be sealed? Nope. Or does the grout just need to be sealed? Not if you use epoxy grout, it wont. I have gotten conflicting information from the same tile store. What a shocker! What else is new?! Now remember, its never too early to think about the proper maintenance of your stone. The issue of what youll be doing day in and day out to your stone is far more important than the sealing itself and its all too often neglected. Maurizio, Expert Panelist
Q 8353: I left a container of strawberries on my granite counter. Now I have a red rectangle from the juices that ran! The granite was installed 5 years ago and is still in great condition. Is it possible to remove this staining? Thanks, Ellen, ReplyR1: Dear Ellen: Absolutely! And its gonna be easy, too! :-) When it comes to stain removal, either you buy one of those expensive Professional kits (that no true professional ever uses!) at a stone retailer near you, or you can spend less money and get my comprehensive guidelines on how to remove stains by using inexpensive and far more effective means that you may already have in your household! Such impressive piece of literature will also tell you how to tell stains apart from stains, and what to do about the latter! Maurizio, Expert Panelist
Q 8352: I would like to find out some of the pros and cons to installing slate tiles in a kitchen countertop. Its difficult to find in depth information. Can you help? Elerne, ReplyR1: Dear Erlene: No sweat! Its very easy: Cons: Anything bad you that can think of (etching, scratching, defoliating even, with certain slates) will happen, and then some! Prevention: impossible. Repair: just about there. Pros: None whatsoever! I told you it was easy! Maurizio, Expert Panelist
Q 8351: Would you please tell what to use to clean marble and granite tombstones? Thank you, Lola, ReplyR1: Dear Lola: It all depends on the conditions the tombstones are. Some may just require a light duty stone cleaner like my excellent MB-5; some other my need to be hit harder, with a product to handle grime and mold, such as my outlandish MB-9. Some others yet are beyond cleaning and need mechanical intervention by a professional stone refinisher.
Q 8350: We have recently had granite installed in our kitchen. I have noticed that a corner of the island appears to have broke off and was repaired. On the finished edge I can see what appears to be a spot of putty. On the top surface in the proper light you can see a hairline crack which is rough as though stone dust was sprinkled in the crack to conceal. This hairline crack continues to the underside. Putty material is also visible on underside. I went back to the fabricators and they insist that it is impossible to repair granite and that what I see must be a fisures (I apologize if I have misspelled fisures). The day the granite was installed, I noticed a large smear of something that looked like dried putty on that corner. I disregarded it since I know nothing about the process of fabrication. I figured it was something used during the fabrication process. I believe now that it was there to secure the fragile corner during transportation. The fabricators are sending someone out to look at this corner (insisting that it not a repair). My concern is that if this is a repair that it will eventually fall off. Please respond. Thank you. ReplyR1:
Dear Inquirer: From your description it is a 100% repair and not so good,
either! I fissure doesnt go through and through and doesnt have
any glue, either!
Your fear is more than justified. Now remember, its never too early
to think about the proper maintenance of your stone. The issue of what youll
be doing day in and day out to your stone is far more important than the
sealing itself and its all too often neglected. Maurizio, Expert Panelist
R1: Dear Mario: You dont really mean to install polished Crema Marfil marble tiles in your kitchen, do you??! Hone-finished would be all right, but then again, you do NOT want butt-joint them!! 1/16 grout gap is your man! Any less or more than that would be looking for trouble! About the joint interface between the travertine and the marble tiles, there are a few available and all pretty good. Just get the one you like better. Maurizio, Expert Panelist
Q 8348: I just bought a home. It has marble around the fire place. I just notice yellow stain at the top of the fire place opening on the marble. I bought a stone cleaner but it didn't work. Can you help me Please. I need to find something to take it off and keep it off. Thank You!!! ReplyR1: Dear Inquirer: I need to find something to take it off and keep it off. So do I! :-) You can try treating it as an inorganic stain (although its actually not) and keep your fingers crossed! Maurizio, Expert Panelist
Q 8347: Hi--we just had our kitchen redone and used "Tan Brown" granite for our countertops. They were sealed with a penetrator. After living with them for a couple of weeks, it looks like there is some rough spots (I can feel them when I run my hand over the top) and some nicks in the granite. Is this normal? Is this more common with some granites than with others? Do we just live with it or is there something we should do? Also, everyone keeps saying how easy granite is...I don't experience that as much. I feel I have to keep wiping and polishing our counters. In the sunlight, they looks streaky, have a "rainbow" effect, and I can see fingerprints. What gives? Thanks! Mary, ReplyR1: Dear Mary: Tan Brown, which is Charnockite from Brazil, may present a few minor spots with some roughness and some nicks. If theyre more than a few, then it may very well be that your slab was not the best candidate to enter into a grading contest! :-( As for the streaks that youre experiencing you shouldnt have them. They may be due to the fact that as youre reporting your fabricator applied a penetrating sealer to your stone that never penetrated (Charnockite should not be sealed) and therefore you still have slight film of the stuff. If could also be that youre not using the right products to clean your countertop with. Maurizio, Expert Panelist
Q 8346: I have a question regarding standard practices for sealing granite. Does it typically come sealed from a distributor and is re-sealed by the fabricator. Apparently our distributor does not seal it and we as the fabricator are not so its going out un-sealed. Is this a common industry practice or what? Any feedback would be appreciated. Thanks. Jon, ReplyR1:
Dear Jon: I can see that the ministers of the sealing
cult didnt get to you yet! :-)
I can also see that to you granite is granite. :-( How can you
ever expect standard practices on sealing granite when the 95%
of the stones traded as granite are related to geological granite and to
each other like a cat to a cow?! Certain mercantile granites need to be
sealed, many other dont. Even among the granites that
need to be sealed the procedure can become moot if the slab was resined
by the factory. So, as you can see, talking of standard practices
on a not-standard material would be a totally useless exercise.
Having said that, the distributors do NOT seal their slab. It is up to the
fabricator to find out whether a slab of any given material needs to be
sealed or not and act accordingly. Makes sense, doesnt it?! Maurizio,
Expert Panelist
R1: Dear Cassandra: Honed and filled is the most practical finish for your application. Tumbled means that the pieces of travertine have been treated by being processed for a pre-determined period of time inside a tumbler together with highly abrasive agents to make it achieve the look that you have now. I wouldnt recommend that type of finish unless your installer provides to fill all the holes. You dont want open holes in a shower stall! Maurizio, Expert Panelist
Q 8344: We've recently had installed a granite countertop. The countertop came in three pieces. However we have one piece that is much darker, smoother and much shinier than the other two. The shade difference is very obvious and we would like to know what to do to have all three pieces the same shade. The colour is desert brown (nutmeg). Please advise, as this is quite disturbing to us and we can't seem to get any advice from our supplier, ReplyR1:
Dear Shortie: Im afraid you think too much of me. Im not THAT
clever! At least not to the point of being able of changing two pieces of
granite slabs into something else! Nothing can be done mechanically. However,
if the difference is so dramatic, you dont have to accept the job
and demand that the different piece be replaced with something closer to
the other two, or vice versa. Some variation is acceptable, but when it
becomes too much, it is not.
Maurizio, Expert Panelist
R1:
Dear Cathy: What can you tell me about either of these?
How about if I wont tell you anything about either of these two stones
and hint at the fact that youre starting your stone adventure
with the wrong foot? I hope you will understand the true meaning of what
Im about to say. It appears to me that like most other inquirers at
this stage you seem mostly interested in the type of granite
and/or its physical characteristics. Its human nature at work, I reckon!:-)
How about if I tell you that a certain stone is a good choice and then you
get a low-grade slab? Trust me: the human factor is far more important than
the stone itself and should be the only true deciding factor! In an industry
thats virtually unregulated, how good and reputable the fabricator
whos is going to process the stone youll end up choosing is
far more important than the stone itself. None of the horror stories that
get posted in this very site stem from the stone itself: they all stem from
the fabricator. That is why I seldom make final statements about any one
particular stone. There may be differences within the same stone (and Im
not talking about looks, here!) from one bundle of slabs and the next. The
slabs may have also been either doctored (which is bad), or
resined (which could be good, but only to a certain extent)
by the factory, which would make a big difference. Even more important,
whats a good stone in the hands of some Michelangelo?!
And again: a reputable fabricator will only carry high-grade slabs, not
some special! Maurizio, Expert Panelist
R1: Dear Bill: Yes, a certain amount of fissures and pits has to be expected with this particular granite and most other granites. Now remember, its never too early to think about the proper maintenance of your stone. Maurizio, Expert Panelist
Q 8341: My parents are finally updating their kitchen and have decided on granite countertops. I couldn't seem to find much information about Amazon Blue or Giallo Sporanza. Are either of these suitable for kitchen countertop? Is one a better choice than the other (less upkeep, better quality, less likely to crack, etc.?) Thanks for any help! Jennifer, ReplyR1:
I hope you will understand the true meaning of what Im about to say.
It appears to me that like most other inquirers at this stage you seem mostly
interested in the type of granite and/or its physical characteristics.
Its human nature at work, I reckon!:-) How about if I tell you that
a certain stone is a good choice and then you get a low-grade slab? Trust
me: the human factor is far more important than the stone itself and should
be the only true deciding factor!
In an industry thats virtually unregulated, how good and reputable
the fabricator whos is going to process the stone youll end
up choosing is far more important than the stone itself. None of the horror
stories that get posted in this very site stem from the stone itself: they
all stem from the fabricator. That is why I seldom make final statements
about any one particular stone. There may be differences within the same
stone (and Im not talking about looks, here!) from one bundle of slabs
and the next. The slabs may have also been either doctored (which
is bad), or resined (which could be good, but only to a certain
extent) by the factory, which would make a big difference. Even more important,
whats a good stone in the hands of some Michelangelo?!
And again: a reputable fabricator will only carry high-grade slabs, not
some special! Maurizio, Expert Panelist
R1:
Dear Mary: If you dont mind me saying so, youre starting out
with the wrong foot. :-)
I hope you will understand the true meaning of what Im about to say.
It appears to me that like most other inquirers at this stage you seem mostly
interested in the type of granite and/or its physical characteristics.
Its human nature at work, I reckon!:-) How about if I tell you that
a certain stone is a good choice and then you get a low-grade slab? Trust
me: the human factor is far more important than the stone itself and should
be the only true deciding factor!
In an industry thats virtually unregulated, how good and reputable
the fabricator whos is going to process the stone youll end
up choosing is far more important than the stone itself. None of the horror
stories that get posted in this very site stem from the stone itself: they
all stem from the fabricator. That is why I seldom make final statements
about any one particular stone. There may be differences within the same
stone (and Im not talking about looks, here!) from one bundle of slabs
and the next. The slabs may have also been either doctored (which
is bad), or resined (which could be good, but only to a certain
extent) by the factory, which would make a big difference. Even more important,
whats a good stone in the hands of some Michelangelo?!
And again: a reputable fabricator will only carry high-grade slabs, not
some special! Maurizio, Expert Panelist
R1: Dear Wanda: I give you two choices: 1. saw-cut unfilled travertine (relatively inexpensive). 2. Flamed or bush-hammered granite (more expensive but as bullet-proof as they come). Maurizio, Expert Panelist
Q 8338: I am designing a retirement "cottage" which will be our permanent residence. I love the look of marble and as I love to cook and bake, the idea of rolling pastry on marble, etc., appeals to me. I have been warned of the softness of marble and that it will stain, but I don't expect it to stay the way it looked new. Marble is used in Italy and all the old houses have it and it looks great, "warts" and all. I would get honed marble, because if it is too shiny it will show more scratches. My second choice is soapstone. Please let me know how this compares with the carrera marble. I am European, and I don't need shiny and new. In fact, I prefer the patina of age. Elfie, ReplyR1: Dear Elfie: The following is the copy and paste answer I always give to queries like yours: ABOUT MARBLE IN A KITCHEN Its a culture issue. All throughout the Mediterranean basin marble is a very popular stone as a kitchen countertop and everybody enjoys it. (Limestone is not so popular, but certain types of limestone could be acceptable in relation of what follows.) In Northern Europe and all throughout North America, many like the way it looks, but nobody enjoys it! Hows that? For the simple reason that In Southern Europe they never install a polished marble countertop (or a polished marble floor, for that matter). They start from a hone-finished surface and then they start using and abusing it. The worse it gets, the better they like it! Its considered aging. Its like a pair of old blue jeans, if you know what I mean: a highly sought lived-in look. While the looks of an old pair of jeans is very much appreciated in Northern Europe or in North America, too, the same principle does not seem to apply to stone. Most people over here expect their stone to look like brand-new all the time, and any change is not considered aging, but a damage that needs to be rectified. Hence the problem. The question now is: regardless of your geographical location, which one of the two groups do you belong to? :-) Going by your posting you sound like a perfect candidate for hone-finished marble in a kitchen! And marble is not THAT soft; certainly not as soft as soapstone, that you can actually scratch with your fingernail! To avoid staining all you have to do is apply a good quality stone impregnating sealer like my outlandish MB-4. You will then upkeep your countertop with my fine specialty cleaning products if you know what I mean!! :-) Now, very important: make sure that you get the right fabricator!! The human factor is much more important than the stone itself! Maurizio, Expert Panelist
Q 8337: Problem with newly installed volga blue granite countertop. The edges(double bullnose) are not shiny even after they were buff and sealed.What seems to be the problem and how can we fix it? Sergio, ReplyR1:
Dear Sergio: Now, if your fabricator whos supposed to be the
professional in the picture was not able to polish the edges of your
countertop, are you hoping that one could tell you how to do it yourself
over the internet??!
The only piece of advice I can give you id to keep pestering your fabricator
until they learn how to do their job and deliver a decent result to you.
If not, your only option is to hire a professional stone refinisher in your
area. I dont see why you should be paying for this, though! Maurizio,
Expert Panelist
R1:
Dear R. Samuel: Granite is, very definitely, the best material that money
can buy for a kitchen countertop. Now, are you trying to tell me that among
the hundreds of possible choices of mercantile granite there is not a single
one that like??!! :)
At any rate, regardless of the stone, Im afraid that youre starting
off with the wrong foot.
I hope you will understand the true meaning of what Im about to say.
It appears to me that like most other inquirers at this stage you seem mostly
interested in the type of granite and/or its physical characteristics.
Its human nature at work, I reckon!:-) How about if I tell you that
a certain stone is a good choice and then you get a low-grade slab? Trust
me: the human factor is far more important than the stone itself and should
be the only true deciding factor!
In an industry thats virtually unregulated, how good and reputable
the fabricator whos is going to process the stone youll end
up choosing is far more important than the stone itself. None of the horror
stories that get posted in this very site stem from the stone itself: they
all stem from the fabricator. That is why I seldom make final statements
about any one particular stone. There may be differences within the same
stone (and Im not talking about looks, here!) from one bundle of slabs
and the next. The slabs may have also been either doctored (which
is bad), or resined (which could be good, but only to a certain
extent) by the factory, which would make a big difference. Even more important,
whats a good stone in the hands of some Michelangelo?!
And again: a reputable fabricator will only carry high-grade slabs, not
some special!Maurizio, Expert Panelist
R1: Dear Marlene: It may not be a necessity, but its always a good bet! You may want to consider my outlandish MB-4 to do the job for you! :-) Maurizio, Expert Panelist
Q 8334: We are in the process of building a new home, and are contracting out it ourselves. Has been quite an experience, brings to mind the old joke about one representing oneself...... Actually, it's been great because we have at this point been able to achieve exactly what we wanted. My question is, we were looking into limestone for our walk-in-shower, and after having read some of the concerns on the website, I think we should try something else. We love the look of limestone, do you have any suggestions as to the type of stone we should be using. The least maintenance the better. We are building right on oceanside property, so will have sand, etc., tracked in. Also, we were contemplating using limestone on our fireplaces, and once again not sure after reading some of the concerns on your website, so any recommendations you could give us would be most beneficial. Thanks in advance! Cara, ReplyR1: Dear Cara: If you like the look of limestone but want to avoid the possible maintenance nightmare attached to it, you should look into hone-finished marble. Same look, different animal! You may also want to look into honed and filled travertine. Thats indeed a low maintenance stone, providing that its installed right and that you care for it with the right cleaning agents. As for the fireplace, considering thats more ornamental than anything else, limestone could be all right. Now remember, its never too early to think about the proper maintenance of your stone. The issue of what youll be doing day in and day out to your stone is far more important than the sealing itself and its all too often neglected. Maurizio, Expert Panelist
Q 8333: My wife and I are stuck and increasingly at odds - we have heard/read such a wide variety of opinions on stone kitchen countertops we can't figure out what works. We both want a natural stone look. Something like Pietra Cardoso, soapstone, slate, (or maybe honed Jet Mist granite?) . I want something low maintenance, where we don't have to worry about spills, etc - and it seems like (at least according to Maurizio) none of these surfaces fits the bill. My wife hates the look of manufactured stone products (quartz, etc). I fear we are headed toward ceramic tile!!! Help!!! David, ReplyR1: Dear David: My wife hates the look of manufactured stone products (quartz, etc). I love her already!! :-) Slate is totally out of the picture. Hone back granite is very iffy as you can tell by a few threads on the subject in this very forum. Pietra di Cardosa is a good choice, if sealed properly. Soapstone is thumb-up in my book. No sealing necessary and its impervious to acidic spills. You will have to deal with the scratching problem, but its no big deal. However, having said all that, I must say that I believe youre starting off with the wrong foot! :-) I hope you will understand the true meaning of what Im about to say. It appears to me that like most other inquirers at this stage you seem mostly interested in the type of granite and/or its physical characteristics. Its human nature at work, I reckon!:-) How about if I tell you that a certain stone is a good choice and then you get a low-grade slab? Trust me: the human factor is far more important than the stone itself and should be the only true deciding factor! In an industry thats virtually unregulated, how good and reputable the fabricator whos is going to process the stone youll end up choosing is far more important than the stone itself. None of the horror stories that get posted in this very site stem from the stone itself: they all stem from the fabricator. That is why I seldom make final statements about any one particular stone. There may be differences within the same stone (and Im not talking about looks, here!) from one bundle of slabs and the next. The slabs may have also been either doctored (which is bad), or resined (which could be good, but only to a certain extent) by the factory, which would make a big difference. Even more important, whats a good stone in the hands of some Michelangelo?! And again: a reputable fabricator will only carry high-grade slabs, not some special! Maurizio, Expert Panelist
Q 8332: I have gone through most of your site looking for an answer. I have a new giallo veneziano counter installed in my kitchen and I have sealed it twice using TileLab surfacegaurd penetrating sealer. It still absorbs water, but not as much as it used to. I was wondering if I can change the sealant and use one that is recommended on this website for the third or fourth(hopefully not) application. Or would you suggest I stick with the tilelab sealant. How many coats does new giallo veneziano requre in general.. Thanks so much, Bobby, ReplyR1:
Dear Bobby: The particular product you used is famous for … well … not sealing
too good! :-(
Using a different product without stripping the stuff that you have now
it may or may not work. On the other hand, the stripping involves the u